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John Mayson
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 Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008, Premier Bush wrote:
| Quote: | H.B. Elkins wrote:
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:27:51 -0600, Premier Bush wrote:
There is no "cult of personality". Just another lie by the
Republics.
Sure there is/was. A bunch of people mesmerized by a handsome young
face who speaks well in front of a Teleprompter without really saying
anything of substance. "We are the ones we've been waiting for?"
Geez. An empty suit spouting platitudes and lying about his
background and getting a bunch of gullible people to believe it.
Obama has plenty of substance. You're just too blinded by your partisan
hatred to see it.
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Just because someone doesn't support your guy or doesn't agree with you
it's not automatically "partisan hatred".
When I'm not being accused of being racist for not voting for Obama I'm
accused of hate. It gets rather old and if that's the best the left can
do...
If Obama doesn't fit the classic "cult of personality" I don't know who
does. I don't think H.B. is the one who is blind.
| Quote: | Think about the little guy? I *AM* the little guy.
No. The homeless guy is the little guy. The single parent working 2 jobs
to feed their kids is the little guy. You're in the middle somewhere.
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Who are you to define who the "little guy" is? Why should I accept your
definition over his?
John
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Premier Bush
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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H.B. Elkins wrote:
| Quote: | On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:27:51 -0600, Premier Bush wrote:
There is no "cult of personality". Just another lie by the
Republics.
Sure there is/was. A bunch of people mesmerized by a handsome young
face who speaks well in front of a Teleprompter without really saying
anything of substance. "We are the ones we've been waiting for?"
Geez. An empty suit spouting platitudes and lying about his
background and getting a bunch of gullible people to believe it.
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Obama has plenty of substance. You're just too blinded by your partisan
hatred to see it.
| Quote: | Well it's not a crisis to you, but it is a crisis for the lower and
middle classes. You gotta think about the little guy sometimes.
THAT is the main reason your guy lost.
Oh, you think I'm an upper class guy, huh? Well you're wrong, dead
wrong. I'm not dumb enough to reveal my income on this newsgroup, but
I can tell you with certainty that it's definitely middle-class, and
on the lower end of that.
I bought a reasonably-priced house at a fixed-rate mortgage. So I'm
not going to be foreclosed on like a lot of these people who bought
way too much house than they could afford and were sucked in by low
variable rates that they knew or should have known would go nowhere
but up. I'm still getting plenty of unsolicited credit card offers,
so don't tell me credit is drying up.
Think about the little guy? I *AM* the little guy.
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No. The homeless guy is the little guy. The single parent working 2 jobs
to feed their kids is the little guy. You're in the middle somewhere. |
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Edrei the Quiet
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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Luxury Yacht
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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"Premier Bush" <bugo73@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ddqdne_QCcFKKr3UnZ2dnUVZ_s7inZ2d@centurytel.net...
| Quote: | Luxury Yacht wrote:
"Odo" <odolaas69@netster.com> wrote in message
news:a93618a7-59e8-4ee9-b48d-77262bf032a3@d36g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
On Nov 10, 10:41 pm, "Luxury Yacht" <Throatwarb...@mangrove.com
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9-11 was not hypothetical. Unless you have evidence that proves your
belief
that Hussein did not have WMD's was based on fact and not wishful
thinking
your whole arguument is hypothetical. And until you provide
information that you have an intelligence source that is more
compelling than 7 international intelligence sources and Husseins
own generals your whole belief will unverifiable.
Prove to me Saddam was involved in 9-11 when we've been led to
believe it was Osama bin Laden.
Strawman argument. My point was that 9-11 was real and so the belief
that Hussein had WMD's took on additional urgency. And, of course,
you missed that.
Your argument is the strawman. Do you even know what a strawman argument
is?
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Show me where I ever said Hussein attacked on 9-11. That's the staw man.
And while we're at it I'm still waiting for you to show me were I said
anything hateful about Obama. I've been waiting a week. You make such
statements but I'm waiting for the evidence.
Do you know what "truth" and "honesty" are?
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H.B. Elkins
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:27:51 -0600, Premier Bush wrote:
| Quote: | There is no "cult of personality". Just another lie by the Republics.
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Sure there is/was. A bunch of people mesmerized by a handsome young face who
speaks well in front of a TelePrompTer without really saying anything of
substance. "We are the ones we've been waiting for?" Geez. An empty suit
spouting platitudes and lying about his background and getting a bunch of
gullible people to believe it.
| Quote: | McCain was the Republic Party nominee and he won the Republic Party
nomination within the rules set by the Republic Party. So "Odo" is right
when he blames the Republic Party. And if you don't think that Bush was an
albatross around McCain's neck, then you're delusional.
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Oh, Bush didn't help, but he wasn't the main reason McCain lost. It's time to
end this business of "open primaries" and let party members select their
candidates without outside interference.
| Quote: | Well it's not a crisis to you, but it is a crisis for the lower and middle
classes. You gotta think about the little guy sometimes. THAT is the main
reason your guy lost.
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Oh, you think I'm an upper class guy, huh? Well you're wrong, dead wrong. I'm
not dumb enough to reveal my income on this newsgroup, but I can tell you with
certainty that it's definitely middle-class, and on the lower end of that.
I bought a reasonably-priced house at a fixed-rate mortgage. So I'm not going to
be foreclosed on like a lot of these people who bought way too much house than
they could afford and were sucked in by low variable rates that they knew or
should have known would go nowhere but up. I'm still getting plenty of
unsolicited credit card offers, so don't tell me credit is drying up.
Think about the little guy? I *AM* the little guy.
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H.B. Elkins
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:18:05 -0600, Free Lunch wrote:
| Quote: | Palin had
done a very poor job in this campaign and has serious ethical issues
that may cost her re-election.
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The only inquisition that mattered -- the state personnel board -- cleared her
of any wrongdoing in "troopergate." The legislative inquiry had no official
standing to make a decision and was basically an exercise in partisan posturing.
| Quote: | Crist has the problem that the anti-gay
bigots won't vote for him. You need to have a candidate who will get
past the self-righteous posturing of the party.
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Huh? Where did that come from? Why would the anti-gays not vote for Crist?
My big problem with Crist was that he endorsed McCain just prior to the Florida
primary. And McCain was my least favorite of all the big-name, serious
candidates.
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H.B. Elkins
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:58:41 -0600, John Mayson wrote:
| Quote: | And we had Ron Paul, but few wanted to hear his message even if it was the
most sane message out there. Sigh...
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Ron Paul???? Aieeeeeeee!
One of the reasons I didn't vote for Chuck Baldwin for president (Constitution
Party) was because Paul endorsed him. I disagree with you about Paul, he's a
looney toon.
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US 71
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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"Free Lunch" <lunch@nofreelunch.us> wrote in
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There seem to be a fairly large group of Republicans who have absolutely
no empathy, including our current president, the man who ran as a
compassionate conservative and proved that he had no idea what
compassion was.
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Sure he does: compassion for big business |
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k_flynn@lycos.com
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:02 am Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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On Nov 14, 6:36 pm, John Mayson <j...@mayson.us> wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 11 Nov 2008, Premier Bush wrote:
9-11 was not hypothetical. Unless you have evidence that proves your
belief that Hussein did not have WMD's was based on fact and not
wishful thinking your whole arguument is hypothetical. And until you
provide information that you have an intelligence source that is more
compelling than 7 international intelligence sources and Husseins
own generals your whole belief will unverifiable.
Saddam had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Even the Bush administration admitted
that. Now if you're just going to use tired, discredited lies then this
conversation is over.
You're right, it didn't. However we had just been attacked. Those wounds
were still fresh and our government suspected Iraq could launch the next
attack against us or our allies. I, for one, wasn't willing to take that
chance. Even President Clinton has said Bush did the right thing based on
the evidence he had at the time and that he would've taken the same
action.
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And id he had, the Republicans in Congress would have added it to
their impeachment proceedings against him. |
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k_flynn@lycos.com
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:08 am Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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On Nov 15, 7:04 pm, General Savage <savage_n...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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It has been openly challenged for at least 6 months, but the corrupt
and dishonest Driveby News Media has been ignoring it.
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Not really. It's simply a non-issue. His birth certificate is out and
online, the story would be why some people are clinging to this
nonsense.
| Quote: | It was not an issue when Obama ran for state and US senate, because
the natural born requirement does not apply to them. It *IS* an issue
when he runs for president.
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It's been resolved with his birth certificate, which shows he was born
in Hawaii. No amount of conspiracy theory can get around it. The state
of Hawaii has reaffirmed it. |
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k_flynn@lycos.com
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 4:28 pm Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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On Nov 18, 5:18 am, "Scott M. Kozel" <koze...@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | k_fl...@lycos.com wrote:
John Mayson <j...@mayson.us> wrote:
You're right, it didn't. However we had just been attacked. Those wounds
were still fresh and our government suspected Iraq could launch the next
attack against us or our allies. I, for one, wasn't willing to take that
chance. Even President Clinton has said Bush did the right thing based on
the evidence he had at the time and that he would've taken the same action.
And if he had, the Republicans in Congress would have added it to
their impeachment proceedings against him.
Nonsense. Clinton initiated the war in Kosovo during the impeachment
time, and the Republicans in Congress -supported- the war.
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Not really, neither Kosovo nor Bosnia; the GOP was generally sniping
at him the whole time. In fact, McCain at the time even accused the US
military of just aerial bombing and killing civilians, which made it
really awkward when he ran that ad against Obama playing the edited
clip of him talking about civilian deaths in Afghanistan. |
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Scott M. Kozel
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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k_flynn@lycos.com wrote:
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John Mayson <j...@mayson.us> wrote:
You're right, it didn't. However we had just been attacked. Those wounds
were still fresh and our government suspected Iraq could launch the next
attack against us or our allies. I, for one, wasn't willing to take that
chance. Even President Clinton has said Bush did the right thing based on
the evidence he had at the time and that he would've taken the same action.
And if he had, the Republicans in Congress would have added it to
their impeachment proceedings against him.
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Nonsense. Clinton initiated the war in Kosovo during the impeachment
time, and the Republicans in Congress -supported- the war.
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H.B. Elkins
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 7:48 pm Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:02:24 -0800 (PST), k_flynn@lycos.com wrote:
| Quote: | And id he had, the Republicans in Congress would have added it to
their impeachment proceedings against him.
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I doubt it. Prevailing sentiment was that Bush 41 (GHWB) made a mistake in not
removing Saddam during the first Gulf War. I'd say Clinton would have had
overwhelming support had he opted to take Saddam out.
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Premier Bush
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:05 pm Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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H.B. Elkins wrote:
| Quote: | On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 20:02:24 -0800 (PST), k_flynn@lycos.com wrote:
And id he had, the Republicans in Congress would have added it to
their impeachment proceedings against him.
I doubt it. Prevailing sentiment was that Bush 41 (GHWB) made a
mistake in not removing Saddam during the first Gulf War. I'd say
Clinton would have had overwhelming support had he opted to take
Saddam out.
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During that era, if Clinton supported, say, spaying and neutering dogs, the
Repubs would have opposed it just because it was Clinton supporting it. |
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John Mayson
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject: Re: About John McCain |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Premier Bush wrote:
| Quote: | During that era, if Clinton supported, say, spaying and neutering dogs, the
Repubs would have opposed it just because it was Clinton supporting it.
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What do you base this on? Right off the top of my head I can name
something both Clinton and the Republicans agreed on: NAFTA. Another was
the Kosovo War. They both opposed same-sex marriage. The list goes on.
John
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