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 Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 12:58 am Post subject: Bats versus bicyclists - Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts bot |
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bay_environment/bal-te.md.bats15nov15,0,5208733.story
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Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
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Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
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LITTLE ORLEANS - Clouds drift in front of a nearly full moon as a bat
flutters to the mouth of an abandoned railroad tunnel in Western
Maryland. There, caught in a web of fishing line, it drops into a
biologist's trap.
A quick and gentle exam by flashlight identifies it as a big brown
bat, a female. Gloved hands jot down her vital statistics and release
her - one more data point in scientists' growing understanding of what
is believed to be Maryland's largest winter hideaway for bats.
The 4,350-foot Indigo Tunnel southwest of Hancock hosts an estimated
1,400 bats during their winter hibernation, some of them rare and
endangered species. But the bats' fondness for the place could derail
plans to extend a popular bike trail through the cavernous tunnel - a
route that supporters hope will help lure thousands more tourists to
this hard-pressed region.
In 2005, the administration of Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. set aside
$4.6 million in state and federal funds to extend the Western Maryland
Rail Trail, a 22-mile paved biking path, for 4.7 miles through Indigo
Tunnel to the hamlet of Little Orleans in Allegany County. ... (cont) |
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maguahiker@gmail.com
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: Re: Bats versus bicyclists - Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts |
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Hmmm....yeah. Ok. I agree...they can't co-exist. We better turn all
those rails back to trains because they would make it so much better
for the bats. Grow up people. Get a life and a clue... |
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Roland Latour
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:42 am Post subject: Re: Bats versus bicyclists - Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts |
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:58:55 -0800, chatnoir wrote:
| Quote: | Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
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The 4,350-foot Indigo Tunnel ...
plans to extend a popular bike trail through the cavernous tunnel
In 2005, the administration of Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. set aside $4.6
million in state and federal funds to extend the Western Maryland Rail
Trail, a 22-mile paved biking path
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Trains don't need lights beyond their own headlamps, but I would hesitate
to ride my bike through 4,350 feet of tunnel in absolute pitch darkness.
Does this plan include installing lights in the tunnel? I see no mention
of it.
Bats don't bother me, but cyclists coming and going all the time with
headlamps would probably bother and/or evict the bats. This plan doesn't
make much sense to me. I bet the bats didn't move in until the trains
were gone. But now (for them) it's home.
Try to cut back on the cross-posting. It's considered bad form. |
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Galen Hekhuis
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:57 am Post subject: Re: Bats versus bicyclists - Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts |
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On Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:58:55 -0800 (PST), chatnoir
<wolfbat359a@mindspring.com> wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bay_environment/bal-te.md.bats15nov15,0,5208733.story
headline:
Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
Text size:
Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
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LITTLE ORLEANS - Clouds drift in front of a nearly full moon as a bat
flutters to the mouth of an abandoned railroad tunnel in Western
Maryland. There, caught in a web of fishing line, it drops into a
biologist's trap.
A quick and gentle exam by flashlight identifies it as a big brown
bat, a female. Gloved hands jot down her vital statistics and release
her - one more data point in scientists' growing understanding of what
is believed to be Maryland's largest winter hideaway for bats.
The 4,350-foot Indigo Tunnel southwest of Hancock hosts an estimated
1,400 bats during their winter hibernation, some of them rare and
endangered species. But the bats' fondness for the place could derail
plans to extend a popular bike trail through the cavernous tunnel - a
route that supporters hope will help lure thousands more tourists to
this hard-pressed region.
In 2005, the administration of Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. set aside
$4.6 million in state and federal funds to extend the Western Maryland
Rail Trail, a 22-mile paved biking path, for 4.7 miles through Indigo
Tunnel to the hamlet of Little Orleans in Allegany County. ... (cont)
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Could some other similar habitat for the bats be constructed? Bats
used to love to live in the big concrete storm drains I played in as a
kid. Seems to me the bats might move on their own if there were a
suitable place to nest nearby. |
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bluezfolk
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:49 pm Post subject: Re: Bats versus bicyclists - Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts |
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On Nov 15, 7:58 pm, chatnoir <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bay_environment/bal-te.md.bats...
headline:
Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
Text size:
Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
12next
LITTLE ORLEANS - Clouds drift in front of a nearly full moon as a bat
flutters to the mouth of an abandoned railroad tunnel in Western
Maryland. There, caught in a web of fishing line, it drops into a
biologist's trap.
A quick and gentle exam by flashlight identifies it as a big brown
bat, a female. Gloved hands jot down her vital statistics and release
her - one more data point in scientists' growing understanding of what
is believed to be Maryland's largest winter hideaway for bats.
The 4,350-foot Indigo Tunnel southwest of Hancock hosts an estimated
1,400 bats during their winter hibernation, some of them rare and
endangered species. But the bats' fondness for the place could derail
plans to extend a popular bike trail through the cavernous tunnel - a
route that supporters hope will help lure thousands more tourists to
this hard-pressed region.
In 2005, the administration of Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. set aside
$4.6 million in state and federal funds to extend the Western Maryland
Rail Trail, a 22-mile paved biking path, for 4.7 miles through Indigo
Tunnel to the hamlet of Little Orleans in Allegany County. ... (cont)
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Could we maybe get Mr Vanderspam to go hiking in that tunnel? |
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Siskuwihane
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| Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: Re: Bats versus bicyclists - Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts |
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On Nov 21, 2:49 pm, bluezfolk <eric...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 15, 7:58 pm, chatnoir <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> wrote:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bay_environment/bal-te.md.bats...
headline:
Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
Text size:
Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
12next
LITTLE ORLEANS - Clouds drift in front of a nearly full moon as a bat
flutters to the mouth of an abandoned railroad tunnel in Western
Maryland. There, caught in a web of fishing line, it drops into a
biologist's trap.
A quick and gentle exam by flashlight identifies it as a big brown
bat, a female. Gloved hands jot down her vital statistics and release
her - one more data point in scientists' growing understanding of what
is believed to be Maryland's largest winter hideaway for bats.
The 4,350-foot Indigo Tunnel southwest of Hancock hosts an estimated
1,400 bats during their winter hibernation, some of them rare and
endangered species. But the bats' fondness for the place could derail
plans to extend a popular bike trail through the cavernous tunnel - a
route that supporters hope will help lure thousands more tourists to
this hard-pressed region.
In 2005, the administration of Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. set aside
$4.6 million in state and federal funds to extend the Western Maryland
Rail Trail, a 22-mile paved biking path, for 4.7 miles through Indigo
Tunnel to the hamlet of Little Orleans in Allegany County. ... (cont)
Could we maybe get Mr Vanderspam to go hiking in that tunnel?- Hide quoted text -
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He doesn't hike, he mountain-bikes by his own admission. |
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Harry Brogan
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:15 am Post subject: Re: Bats versus bicyclists - Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:19:54 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
<Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 21, 2:49 pm, bluezfolk <eric...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 15, 7:58 pm, chatnoir <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> wrote:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bay_environment/bal-te.md.bats...
headline:
Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
Text size:
Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
12next
LITTLE ORLEANS - Clouds drift in front of a nearly full moon as a bat
flutters to the mouth of an abandoned railroad tunnel in Western
Maryland. There, caught in a web of fishing line, it drops into a
biologist's trap.
A quick and gentle exam by flashlight identifies it as a big brown
bat, a female. Gloved hands jot down her vital statistics and release
her - one more data point in scientists' growing understanding of what
is believed to be Maryland's largest winter hideaway for bats.
The 4,350-foot Indigo Tunnel southwest of Hancock hosts an estimated
1,400 bats during their winter hibernation, some of them rare and
endangered species. But the bats' fondness for the place could derail
plans to extend a popular bike trail through the cavernous tunnel - a
route that supporters hope will help lure thousands more tourists to
this hard-pressed region.
In 2005, the administration of Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. set aside
$4.6 million in state and federal funds to extend the Western Maryland
Rail Trail, a 22-mile paved biking path, for 4.7 miles through Indigo
Tunnel to the hamlet of Little Orleans in Allegany County. ... (cont)
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My take??? Well...the bats found THIS place....I say go ahead with
the plans fr a bike path through the tunnel. If the bats don't like
it they will find some other place to spend their winter hibernation.
After all...I rather doubt that there would be all that much bike
traffic through there in mid-winter anyway. So where does the
problem lie????
__o | Every time I see an adult on a bicycle....
_`\(,_ | I no longer despair for the human race.
(_)/ (_) | ---H.G. Wells--- |
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Harry Brogan
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: Re: Bats versus bicyclists - Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:19:54 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
<Siskuwihane1@gmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 21, 2:49 pm, bluezfolk <eric...@yahoo.com> wrote:
On Nov 15, 7:58 pm, chatnoir <wolfbat3...@mindspring.com> wrote:
http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/local/bay_environment/bal-te.md.bats...
headline:
Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
Text size:
Bats versus bicyclists
Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts both, but coexistence in doubt
By Frank D. Roylance
November 15, 2008
12next
LITTLE ORLEANS - Clouds drift in front of a nearly full moon as a bat
flutters to the mouth of an abandoned railroad tunnel in Western
Maryland. There, caught in a web of fishing line, it drops into a
biologist's trap.
A quick and gentle exam by flashlight identifies it as a big brown
bat, a female. Gloved hands jot down her vital statistics and release
her - one more data point in scientists' growing understanding of what
is believed to be Maryland's largest winter hideaway for bats.
The 4,350-foot Indigo Tunnel southwest of Hancock hosts an estimated
1,400 bats during their winter hibernation, some of them rare and
endangered species. But the bats' fondness for the place could derail
plans to extend a popular bike trail through the cavernous tunnel - a
route that supporters hope will help lure thousands more tourists to
this hard-pressed region.
In 2005, the administration of Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. set aside
$4.6 million in state and federal funds to extend the Western Maryland
Rail Trail, a 22-mile paved biking path, for 4.7 miles through Indigo
Tunnel to the hamlet of Little Orleans in Allegany County. ... (cont)
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My take??? Well...the bats found THIS place....I say go ahead with
the plans fr a bike path through the tunnel. If the bats don't like
it they will find some other place to spend their winter hibernation.
After all...I rather doubt that there would be all that much bike
traffic through there in mid-winter anyway. So where does the
problem lie????
__o | Every time I see an adult on a bicycle....
_`\(,_ | I no longer despair for the human race.
(_)/ (_) | ---H.G. Wells--- |
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Galen Hekhuis
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:33 am Post subject: Re: Bats versus bicyclists - Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:15:49 -0500, Harry Brogan
<hbrogan57@NOSPAM.YAHOO.COM> wrote:
| Quote: | My take??? Well...the bats found THIS place....I say go ahead with
the plans fr a bike path through the tunnel. If the bats don't like
it they will find some other place to spend their winter hibernation.
After all...I rather doubt that there would be all that much bike
traffic through there in mid-winter anyway. So where does the
problem lie????
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It takes only one person to wake up the bats during the winter. If
they are awakened during their hibernation and don't find a way to
replace the energy they consume, they die, and in the winter there
aren't any bugs for them to eat. Cave explorers are often careful not
to disturb bats, especially hibernating bats, for this very reason. |
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Harry Brogan
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| Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 7:33 am Post subject: Re: Bats versus bicyclists - Old W. Md. rail tunnel attracts |
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:33:17 -0500, Galen Hekhuis
<ghekhuis@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:15:49 -0500, Harry Brogan
hbrogan57@NOSPAM.YAHOO.COM> wrote:
My take??? Well...the bats found THIS place....I say go ahead with
the plans fr a bike path through the tunnel. If the bats don't like
it they will find some other place to spend their winter hibernation.
After all...I rather doubt that there would be all that much bike
traffic through there in mid-winter anyway. So where does the
problem lie????
It takes only one person to wake up the bats during the winter. If
they are awakened during their hibernation and don't find a way to
replace the energy they consume, they die, and in the winter there
aren't any bugs for them to eat. Cave explorers are often careful not
to disturb bats, especially hibernating bats, for this very reason.
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Thanks for that information. I was unaware of that fact.
__o | Every time I see an adult on a bicycle....
_`\(,_ | I no longer despair for the human race.
(_)/ (_) | ---H.G. Wells--- |
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