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 Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:10 pm Post subject: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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I want to purchase a rolling carry-on. Just before I clicked on the
Rick Steves 21-inch Roll-Aboard,
<http://tinyurl.com/lw8m>
I saw that the comments section for this item at amazon.com states the
bag is in actuality 22" H and that disallows use of this bag as carry-on
on, among other airlines, British Air, Air Canada, etc..
So I went over to the llbean.com web site, usually a manufacturer of
quality luggage, only to find the same problem--22" was the height of
most of their rolling carry-on bags!
Did some airlines just change from 22" or more to 21" recently?
In any case, are there suggestions for a rolling carry-on bag that meets
the requirements of most airlines?
Thanks!
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Tom P
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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Peer wrote:
| Quote: | I want to purchase a rolling carry-on. Just before I clicked on the
Rick Steves 21-inch Roll-Aboard,
http://tinyurl.com/lw8m
I saw that the comments section for this item at amazon.com states the
bag is in actuality 22" H and that disallows use of this bag as carry-on
on, among other airlines, British Air, Air Canada, etc..
So I went over to the llbean.com web site, usually a manufacturer of
quality luggage, only to find the same problem--22" was the height of
most of their rolling carry-on bags!
Did some airlines just change from 22" or more to 21" recently?
In any case, are there suggestions for a rolling carry-on bag that meets
the requirements of most airlines?
Thanks!
Peer
Each piece of hand baggage may not be larger than 55 x 40 x 20 cm and |
may not weigh more than 8 kg. An exception are foldable garment bags.
They count as hand baggage up to a size of 57 x 54 x 15 cm.
55cm = 21.7 inches
I guess a piece of luggage could be 21" or 22" depending whether you
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Mister Bartlett
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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Tom P <notreallylgogp@freenet.de> wrote:
| Quote: | Peer wrote:
I want to purchase a rolling carry-on. Just before I clicked on the
Rick Steves 21-inch Roll-Aboard,
http://tinyurl.com/lw8m
I saw that the comments section for this item at amazon.com states the
bag is in actuality 22" H and that disallows use of this bag as carry-on
on, among other airlines, British Air, Air Canada, etc..
So I went over to the llbean.com web site, usually a manufacturer of
quality luggage, only to find the same problem--22" was the height of
most of their rolling carry-on bags!
Did some airlines just change from 22" or more to 21" recently?
In any case, are there suggestions for a rolling carry-on bag that meets
the requirements of most airlines?
Thanks!
Peer
Each piece of hand baggage may not be larger than 55 x 40 x 20 cm and
may not weigh more than 8 kg. An exception are foldable garment bags.
They count as hand baggage up to a size of 57 x 54 x 15 cm.
55cm = 21.7 inches
I guess a piece of luggage could be 21" or 22" depending whether you
round up or down.
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Note that BA have a weight limit of 23kg for carry-on items.
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Rog
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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"Peer" <nobody@nowhere.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Did some airlines just change from 22" or more to 21" recently?
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This list at www.luggageonline.com/about_airlines.cfm#airlines
suggests that 22" is acceptable to all of the majors. Delta says:
1. Can't exceed 45 inches (length + width + height).
2. Must fit easily in our SizeWise unit (approx. 22"x14"x9").
But if you want a bag that's 21", check out this one by Atlantic:
http://www.luggageonline.com/product.cfm?product_ID=6612
BTW, I have yet to see any airling employee pull out a tape
measure. They just seem to eyeball it, and some of the most
absurd stuff gets by them. I suspect that will change as luggage
becomes more of a money maker for the airlines. |
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Tom P
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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Mister Bartlett wrote:
| Quote: | Tom P <notreallylgogp@freenet.de> wrote:
Peer wrote:
I want to purchase a rolling carry-on. Just before I clicked on the
Rick Steves 21-inch Roll-Aboard,
http://tinyurl.com/lw8m
I saw that the comments section for this item at amazon.com states the
bag is in actuality 22" H and that disallows use of this bag as carry-on
on, among other airlines, British Air, Air Canada, etc..
So I went over to the llbean.com web site, usually a manufacturer of
quality luggage, only to find the same problem--22" was the height of
most of their rolling carry-on bags!
Did some airlines just change from 22" or more to 21" recently?
In any case, are there suggestions for a rolling carry-on bag that meets
the requirements of most airlines?
Thanks!
Peer
Each piece of hand baggage may not be larger than 55 x 40 x 20 cm and
may not weigh more than 8 kg. An exception are foldable garment bags.
They count as hand baggage up to a size of 57 x 54 x 15 cm.
55cm = 21.7 inches
I guess a piece of luggage could be 21" or 22" depending whether you
round up or down.
Note that BA have a weight limit of 23kg for carry-on items.
B;
In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked |
their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for
checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided" |
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congokid
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| Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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In article <6flpojFc233gU1@mid.individual.net>, Tom P
<notreallylgogp@freenet.de> writes
| Quote: | In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked
their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for
checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided"
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It does sound like a lot. At a guess without measuring it, my Samsonite
Oyster case ought to fit in an overhead locker. Being a hard shell case
it's quite heavy even empty. But packed full of clothes for a holiday it
weighs only about 10-11kg.
Perhaps the high weight limit is for people who put camera equipment and
a laptop in this size of case and carry it on. It wouldn't leave much
room for clothes.
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congokid
Eating out in London? Read my tips...
http://congokid.com |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanq
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:41 am Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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Tom P wrote:
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In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked
their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for
checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided"
I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no |
longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers? What
about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but cannot
REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high - one of the
occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I have lost as my
spine compresses with age!) |
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poldy
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:11 am Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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In article <6flpojFc233gU1@mid.individual.net>,
Tom P <notreallylgogp@freenet.de> wrote:
| Quote: | Note that BA have a weight limit of 23kg for carry-on items.
B;
In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked
their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for
checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided"
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Most other airlines are not that generous. If you pack a laptop, you
use up most of the limit, which is around 11 kg. |
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JohnT
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:16 am Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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"EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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Tom P wrote:
In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked their
website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for checked
baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers
in the aircraft cabin unaided"
I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no longer
available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers? What about
able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but cannot REACH
the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high - one of the
occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I have lost as my
spine compresses with age!)
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The full statement on the BA website is:
"one standard-sized bag - maximum size of the bag must not exceed 56x45x25cm
(22x17.5x9.85in) (including wheels, pockets and handles). In addition, one
laptop sized bag, handbag or briefcase. A 23kg(51lbs) maximum bag weight
applies and you must be able to lift the bag into the overhead lockers in
the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin crew will assist customers with
additional needs."
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Goomba
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 1:18 am Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
| Quote: | I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers? What
about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but cannot
REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high - one of the
occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I have lost as my
spine compresses with age!)
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You must have missed this on Gadling-
http://www.gadling.com/2008/07/15/galley-gossip-flight-attendant-pet-peeve-3-you-want-me-to-d/ |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanq
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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JohnT wrote:
| Quote: | "EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque)" <evgmsop@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:g751lo02hp5@news4.newsguy.com...
Tom P wrote:
In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked
their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as
for checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided"
I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers?
What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but
cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high -
one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I
have lost as my spine compresses with age!)
The full statement on the BA website is:
"one standard-sized bag - maximum size of the bag must not exceed
56x45x25cm (22x17.5x9.85in) (including wheels, pockets and handles). In
addition, one laptop sized bag, handbag or briefcase. A 23kg(51lbs)
maximum bag weight applies and you must be able to lift the bag into the
overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin crew will
assist customers with additional needs."
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Oh well, I didn't realize 23 kg was that heavy - every trip to Europe
has resulted in fewer, lighter bags! Only the first time did I travel
with a solid-frame dress-bag, full-sized suit-case and twenty-inch
carry-on. I wore the formal gown to the Wiener Staatsoper only because
I had it with me, half my wardrobe I never wore at all.... (Amazing how
few "necessary" items proved to be real necessities, even allowing for
something dressy to wear to the opera!) |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanq
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:27 am Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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Goomba wrote:
| Quote: | EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers?
What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but
cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high -
one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I
have lost as my spine compresses with age!)
You must have missed this on Gadling-
http://www.gadling.com/2008/07/15/galley-gossip-flight-attendant-pet-peeve-3-you-want-me-to-d/
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Why would I have even looked for it? I always check all but one clearly
"carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane (I
require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am
no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated
by several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel
was actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I
was under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist
passengers who require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses,
using the boarding period to catch up on their gossip. |
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Tom P
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 2:51 am Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
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Goomba wrote:
EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
I wonder how strict they are about that? Are flight attendants no
longer available to assist elderly and/or handicapped passengers?
What about able-bodied but short passengers, who can lift the bag but
cannot REACH the overhead bin? (Some of those bins are very high -
one of the occasions when I really miss the two-and-a-half inches I
have lost as my spine compresses with age!)
You must have missed this on Gadling-
http://www.gadling.com/2008/07/15/galley-gossip-flight-attendant-pet-peeve-3-you-want-me-to-d/
Why would I have even looked for it? I always check all but one clearly
"carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane (I
require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am
no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated
by several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel
was actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I
was under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist
passengers who require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses,
using the boarding period to catch up on their gossip.
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To quote the rest of the BA website: ..and you must be able to lift the
bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin
crew will assist customers with additional needs."
Meaning YES if like yourself you are a disabled person with special
needs, NO if you are someone who drags a carry-on full of bricks on
board and expects cabin crew to risk injury to themselves and possibly
other passengers heaving it into the overhead bin. Which in any case
raises the question, why does BA tell you to put such heavy hand luggage
in the overhead and not under the seat? |
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Mimi
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 4:45 am Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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"Tom P" <tombnbnb@freenet.dd> wrote in message
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| Quote: | EvelynVogtGamble(Divamanque) wrote:
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I always check all but one
clearly "carry-on" bag which I have no problem carrying onto the airplane
(I require a wheelchair to get to the gate from check-in). The fact I am
no longer tall enough to reach overhead bins (which have been elevated by
several inches from the height they once were, back when air-travel was
actually enjoyable) seems a legitimate reason for needing help. I was
under the impression flight attendants were PAID to assist passengers who
require assistance, not just to be glorified waitresses, using the
boarding period to catch up on their gossip.
To quote the rest of the BA website: ..and you must be able to lift the
bag into the overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided. NB. Cabin
crew will assist customers with additional needs."
Meaning YES if like yourself you are a disabled person with special needs,
NO if you are someone who drags a carry-on full of bricks on board and
expects cabin crew to risk injury to themselves and possibly other
passengers heaving it into the overhead bin. Which in any case raises the
question, why does BA tell you to put such heavy hand luggage in the
overhead and not under the seat?
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And suppose the overhead bin door opens in flight -- stressed by all that
weight -- and the heavy but allowed bag falls on somebody's head.
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mrtravel
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| Posted: Mon Aug 04, 2008 11:52 am Post subject: Re: Best 21" Rolling Carry-On |
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poldy wrote:
| Quote: | In article <6flpojFc233gU1@mid.individual.net>,
Tom P <notreallylgogp@freenet.de> wrote:
Note that BA have a weight limit of 23kg for carry-on items.
B;
In the cabin??? It sounds insanely dangerous to me. I just checked
their website and yes, it really says 23kg for handluggage, same as for
checked baggage - "and you must be able to lift the bag into the
overhead lockers in the aircraft cabin unaided"
Most other airlines are not that generous. If you pack a laptop, you
use up most of the limit, which is around 11 kg.
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AA's limit is 40 pounds. |
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