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EVIL ELVIS
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 Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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On Nov 16, 8:22 pm, Nonnymus <a...@cox.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Skip, I once stood around 20 feet from two guys looting my burned out
house's basement. I was holding a Remington 870 and it was loaded with
BB rounds. My friend and neighbor laid his hand on my forearm and we
just waited until the deputies arrived. I understand your feelings.
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Nothing grabs the attention of scumbags quite like the sound of the
pump action of a Remington 870 12-gauge shotgun with 00 buckshot.
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EVIL ELVIS
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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On Nov 16, 2:20 pm, Skipfromla <skipfro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | They don't cause fires but the do bring in hot, dry air from the
desert that dries out everything making all the plants more
combustible.
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Very true, Skip. Is it me or are these fires happening more
frequently than ever?
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Nonnymus
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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Skipfromla wrote:
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5 looters were arrested last night in one of the evacuated areas
around here. Too bad they weren't shot, the scum that they are.
Skip
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Skip, I once stood around 20 feet from two guys looting my burned out
house's basement. I was holding a Remington 870 and it was loaded with
BB rounds. My friend and neighbor laid his hand on my forearm and we
just waited until the deputies arrived. I understand your feelings.
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Nonnymus-
Suppose you were an idiot.
And suppose you were a member of Congress....
But then I repeat myself.
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Skipfromla
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:41 pm Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:30:57 -0800 (PST), EVIL ELVIS
<hehatemetoo69@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 16, 2:20 pm, Skipfromla <skipfro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
They don't cause fires but the do bring in hot, dry air from the
desert that dries out everything making all the plants more
combustible.
Very true, Skip. Is it me or are these fires happening more
frequently than ever?
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Even since the eco-nuts decided that it's a sin to clean up dead, dry
foliage and downed trees (thank you Al Gore), more and worse fires
have been happening in California, regardless of how they started. San
Diego, the several fires since and the ones this year seem to bear
that out. Preserving the natural environment, no matter how
dangerous, is evidently more important a few thousand houses and
lives lost. Some of these idiot groups are even against mosquito
control. What's a little yellow and Nile fever compared to the rights
of insects?
This will go on until on of the leaders of the tree huggers has a
place burned to the ground by this eco-stupidity (What? Clear brush
from around my house? No, no, it's not the natural way.) at which
time that person will sue the government for not removing the brush
and downed trees, calling the rest of us criminals for not having
done it in time to save the house.
It's the typical way liberals turn into conservatives, just like ACLU
members who become victims of violent crimes and want to hang the
suspect from the nearest bridge, rights be damned. I've seen it
happen (not the hangings) more times than I can count.
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Skipfromla
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:50 pm Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:23:47 -0800 (PST), lasvegaslynn
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Skip,
Glad to hear that you are okay. A good friend of ours lost his home
in the Sylmar fire yesterday.
On the looters, according to the news reports, a man was evacuating
and realized that he had forgotten something important and turned
around and went back to his house. There he found two women from
North Hollywood looting his home and putting his valuables into their
SUV.
Another one of his neighbors came over to see what was going on and
they detained the two women and called 911. Police came and arrested
the two women on the spot.
It's been a bad weekend here throughout the Southland but it is good
to know that you are safe.
Hope to see you in Vegas one of these days.
Lynn in Sherman Oaks
www.classiclasvegas.squarespace.com (blog)
www.classiclasvegas.com (website)
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About an hour after the '94 Northridge earthquake I saw a couple of
looters inside a store in Sherman Oaks and was tempted to shoot them.
Before I got out of the car, part of the structure fell, killing one
of them. Justice served for him and no federal civil rights
prosecution for me. These morons drove all the way from Long Beach to
Van Nuys to see what they could get. One got a grave and the other
got 9 years.
When our fairly new chief of police, Fat Willie from Philly,, finally
came out from hiding in his house about 12 hours after the earthquake,
he gave a press conference and told the world that there had been no
looting in "his" city. Strange he should say that when about 50
looters were arrested in the first few hours after the quake.
Oh, well...
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Skipfromla
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:54 pm Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:30:01 -0800 (PST), EVIL ELVIS
<hehatemetoo69@hotmail.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On Nov 16, 8:22 pm, Nonnymus <a...@cox.net> wrote:
Skip, I once stood around 20 feet from two guys looting my burned out
house's basement. I was holding a Remington 870 and it was loaded with
BB rounds. My friend and neighbor laid his hand on my forearm and we
just waited until the deputies arrived. I understand your feelings.
Nothing grabs the attention of scumbags quite like the sound of the
pump action of a Remington 870 12-gauge shotgun with 00 buckshot.
--EE--
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I like the Ithaca 37, the one we carried until about 10 years ago.
it's lighter than the 870 and actually has a louder pump action.
00 buckshot is good. Nothing like sending the equivalent of 9 .32
cal bullets down range.
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Octopus Ride
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:22 am Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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"Skipfromla" <skipfromla@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:30:57 -0800 (PST), EVIL ELVIS
hehatemetoo69@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 16, 2:20 pm, Skipfromla <skipfro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
They don't cause fires but the do bring in hot, dry air from the
desert that dries out everything making all the plants more
combustible.
Very true, Skip. Is it me or are these fires happening more
frequently than ever?
--EE--
Even since the eco-nuts decided that it's a sin to clean up dead, dry
foliage and downed trees (thank you Al Gore), more and worse fires
have been happening in California, regardless of how they started. San
Diego, the several fires since and the ones this year seem to bear
that out. Preserving the natural environment, no matter how
dangerous, is evidently more important a few thousand houses and
lives lost. Some of these idiot groups are even against mosquito
control. What's a little yellow and Nile fever compared to the rights
of insects?
This will go on until on of the leaders of the tree huggers has a
place burned to the ground by this eco-stupidity (What? Clear brush
from around my house? No, no, it's not the natural way.) at which
time that person will sue the government for not removing the brush
and downed trees, calling the rest of us criminals for not having
done it in time to save the house.
It's the typical way liberals turn into conservatives, just like ACLU
members who become victims of violent crimes and want to hang the
suspect from the nearest bridge, rights be damned. I've seen it
happen (not the hangings) more times than I can count.
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The most serious and most obvious reason that California suffers more
destruction from fires than in the past is all of those McMansion houses
that have been built in the last ten years or so in canyons and areas that
should never have seen any construction in the first place. They're in
natural wind tunnels and naturally super dry areas. Fire in those areas is
as inevitable as hurricanes along the Gulf coast; especially when you
consider that most of the destructive fires we've seen have been set by
humans and not caused by lightening. If you build in dangerous areas
you'll pay for it, especially when you bring fire happy kooks into the mix.
And if there were no houses, the plethora of SoCal arsonists would either
find someplace else to have their fun or would be tempted by only dry grass.
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The DOS Man
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:24 am Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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I am surprised they were not just beaten to death. Didn't Foothill answer
that call?
How close to Olive View or Mission College did it get?
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"Skipfromla" <skipfromla@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:10:35 -0800 (PST), EVIL ELVIS
hehatemetoo69@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 15, 11:46 am, Skipfromla <skipfro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems there are fires about 1 mile north of where I live near
Sylmar and Granada Hills, CA. We are all packed for evacuation. If
we have to go I think I'm going to pick the evacuation center about
280 miles east of here, MSS in Las Vegas.
Damn, Skip. Best of luck to you in CA. If the fires spread to over
here, I just may join you at MSS.
--EE--
EE, I think you are safe until someone sets another "controlled burn"
and it gets out of hand again or maybe that was AZ and not NM.
MSS was sounding pretty good but the wind and smoke have died down,
the sky is blue and there isn't much ash falling. Plus, the media is
no longer concerned with us as all their coverage seems to be on the
fires 60-100 miles south east of LA.
Last night my youngest daughter packed her stuff and asked me to put
it in my truck if we were evacuated. Then left for a few hours of
clubbing - you can tell she was concerned.
The cars are unloaded now and the only sign of anything around here is
the bottom of my pool covered in black ash. Well, that's what
automatic pool cleaners are for.
There will probably be another fire around here as soon as the brush
grows back and people continue to do stupid things. And, we are in
the middle of the fire season but then the fire season around here
runs all year long.
5 looters were arrested last night in one of the evacuated areas
around here. Too bad they weren't shot, the scum that they are.
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The DOS Man
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 6:46 am Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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I would have shot a round above their heads. I am sure you have had their
attention.
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"Skipfromla" <skipfromla@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:30:01 -0800 (PST), EVIL ELVIS
hehatemetoo69@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 16, 8:22 pm, Nonnymus <a...@cox.net> wrote:
Skip, I once stood around 20 feet from two guys looting my burned out
house's basement. I was holding a Remington 870 and it was loaded with
BB rounds. My friend and neighbor laid his hand on my forearm and we
just waited until the deputies arrived. I understand your feelings.
Nothing grabs the attention of scumbags quite like the sound of the
pump action of a Remington 870 12-gauge shotgun with 00 buckshot.
--EE--
I like the Ithaca 37, the one we carried until about 10 years ago.
it's lighter than the 870 and actually has a louder pump action.
00 buckshot is good. Nothing like sending the equivalent of 9 .32
cal bullets down range.
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Skipfromla
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:24:53 -0800, "The DOS Man" <nowhere@nohow.com>
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| Quote: | I am surprised they were not just beaten to death. Didn't Foothill answer
that call?
How close to Olive View or Mission College did it get?
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Some of Olive View's out buildings were destroyed. I didn't hear
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The DOS Man
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:52 am Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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My brother lives in Canyon Country showed me the footage he took from the
camera. Looked pretty bad along the 210 but the fire fighters continue to
amaze me. My GF told me you could see the glow from Burbank all over the
sky.
Glad to see you are OK. Saw what it did to that mobil home park.
Stay in touch until fire is completely out ok? We are getting the KCAL feed
here in LV and the web is going a great job as well.
If you have video cam on your computer let me know I we can hook up.
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"Skipfromla" <skipfromla@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:24:53 -0800, "The DOS Man" <nowhere@nohow.com
wrote:
I am surprised they were not just beaten to death. Didn't Foothill answer
that call?
How close to Olive View or Mission College did it get?
Some of Olive View's out buildings were destroyed. I didn't hear
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Skipfromla
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 8:28 pm Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:56:30 -0800, "The DOS Man" <nowhere@nohow.com>
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| Quote: | My brother lives in Canyon Country showed me the footage he took from the
camera. Looked pretty bad along the 210 but the fire fighters continue to
amaze me. My GF told me you could see the glow from Burbank all over the
sky.
Glad to see you are OK. Saw what it did to that mobil home park.
Stay in touch until fire is completely out ok? We are getting the KCAL feed
here in LV and the web is going a great job as well.
If you have video cam on your computer let me know I we can hook up.
M
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The fire is pretty much out here but was still burning last night east
of the 5 and north of the 210, 6-7 miles from us. I don't have a
video cam but even if I did, the ash and smoke was too thick for any
pictures to show the fire from here. |
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EVIL ELVIS
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:25 am Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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On Nov 17, 11:22 am, "Octopus Ride" <davk...@sonic.net> wrote:
| Quote: | "Skipfromla" <skipfro...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:mq63i4ht840fg6shjph1fqcouu65ralq5u@4ax.com...
On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:30:57 -0800 (PST), EVIL ELVIS
hehatemeto...@hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 16, 2:20 pm, Skipfromla <skipfro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
They don't cause fires but the do bring in hot, dry air from the
desert that dries out everything making all the plants more
combustible.
Very true, Skip. Is it me or are these fires happening more
frequently than ever?
--EE--
Even since the eco-nuts decided that it's a sin to clean up dead, dry
foliage and downed trees (thank you Al Gore), more and worse fires
have been happening in California, regardless of how they started. San
Diego, the several fires since and the ones this year seem to bear
that out. Preserving the natural environment, no matter how
dangerous, is evidently more important a few thousand houses and
lives lost. Some of these idiot groups are even against mosquito
control. What's a little yellow and Nile fever compared to the rights
of insects?
This will go on until on of the leaders of the tree huggers has a
place burned to the ground by this eco-stupidity (What? Clear brush
from around my house? No, no, it's not the natural way.) at which
time that person will sue the government for not removing the brush
and downed trees, calling the rest of us criminals for not having
done it in time to save the house.
It's the typical way liberals turn into conservatives, just like ACLU
members who become victims of violent crimes and want to hang the
suspect from the nearest bridge, rights be damned. I've seen it
happen (not the hangings) more times than I can count.
The most serious and most obvious reason that California suffers more
destruction from fires than in the past is all of those McMansion houses
that have been built in the last ten years or so in canyons and areas that
should never have seen any construction in the first place.
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Absolute balderdash.
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natural wind tunnels and naturally super dry areas. Fire in those areas is
as inevitable as hurricanes along the Gulf coast; especially when you
consider that most of the destructive fires we've seen have been set by
humans and not caused by lightening. If you build in dangerous areas
you'll pay for it, especially when you bring fire happy kooks into the mix.
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There is no place in the world that is 100% safe from natural
disasters.
| Quote: | And if there were no houses, the plethora of SoCal arsonists would either
find someplace else to have their fun or would be tempted by only dry grass.
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I think that's what Skip's original point was.
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EVIL ELVIS
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:31 am Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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On Nov 17, 9:41 am, Skipfromla <skipfro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Even since the eco-nuts decided that it's a sin to clean up dead, dry
foliage and downed trees (thank you Al Gore), more and worse fires
have been happening in California, regardless of how they started. San
Diego, the several fires since and the ones this year seem to bear
that out. Preserving the natural environment, no matter how
dangerous, is evidently more important a few thousand houses and
lives lost.
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Are these the same nutters that complain about global warming that fly
around in lear jets, or are you talking about the granolas that don't
shower but every 3 years to preserve nature?
| Quote: | Some of these idiot groups are even against mosquito
control. What's a little yellow and Nile fever compared to the rights
of insects?
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I can just see the protesters and mosquito civil rights leaders on
Oprah.
| Quote: | This will go on until on of the leaders of the tree huggers has a
place burned to the ground by this eco-stupidity (What? Clear brush
from around my house? No, no, it's not the natural way.) at which
time that person will sue the government for not removing the brush
and downed trees, calling the rest of us criminals for not having
done it in time to save the house.
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Gosh, I wonder just who will pay the burden of that lawsuit? Hmmmm...
| Quote: | It's the typical way liberals turn into conservatives, just like ACLU
members who become victims of violent crimes and want to hang the
suspect from the nearest bridge, rights be damned. I've seen it
happen (not the hangings) more times than I can count.
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Hey, I used to live in So. Cal. to. I can honestly say that you have
nailed the typical So. Cal. liberal right on the head... with an
organic, bio-degradable, designer tofu hammer, of course. :>)
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EVIL ELVIS
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 6:36 am Post subject: Re: California Fires |
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On Nov 17, 9:54 am, Skipfromla <skipfro...@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I like the Ithaca37,
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Any relation to the Ixtapa 37?
| Quote: | the one we carried until about 10 years ago.
it's lighter than the 870 and actually has a louder pump action.
00 buckshot is good. Nothing like sending the equivalent of 9 .32
cal bullets down range.
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Lovely. So, what do you think about the Remington 700 PSS .308 sniper
rifle? I am thinking about getting one for Christmas - before you-
know-who bans them... and Christmas.
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