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Alan S
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 Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 7:57 am Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:12:41 -0800, Joe <> wrote:
| Quote: | Sounds like a good idea to me. When i pay for a seat i'm not intressted to
share 1/3 of it with someone else.
Why not have a "test seat" at the check-in counter if you can' fit
buy a second ticket. Easy!.
Joe
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Of course, skinny people would also be charged extra for the
unused space they are taking, that could be utilised by
others, up by not filling the test seat...
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Jochen Kriegerowski
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 8:21 am Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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"Alan S" <nothere@there.com> schrieb
| Quote: | Of course, skinny people would also be charged extra for the
unused space they are taking, that could be utilised by
others, up by not filling the test seat...
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Right. Just like I pay twice for everything else I buy and don't
use. If you buy something, it's compulsory to use it. And you
pay for every minute it is not in use, because others could use
it during this time.
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Alan S
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 3:27 pm Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:14:57 +0100, "Jochen Kriegerowski"
<joinvalid@smtp.ru> wrote:
| Quote: | "Alan S" <nothere@there.com> schrieb
Of course, skinny people would also be charged extra for the
unused space they are taking, that could be utilised by
others, up by not filling the test seat...
Right. Just like I pay twice for everything else I buy and don't
use. If you buy something, it's compulsory to use it. And you
pay for every minute it is not in use, because others could use
it during this time.
Jochen
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Nah, not what I was saying at all. To agree with the "pay by
your width" proposals of the earlier posts we would
re-design planes with laterally movable armrests. You would
be measured at check-in and allowed 2" each side of your
thighs when seated. You pay by the inch of width between the
armrests.
Of course it's ludicrous, but no more ludicrous than some of
the nonsense I've seen spouted earlier on this perennial
troll thread.
The simple answer is for airlines to accept that the average
passenger is wider now. But, of course, they won't. Too much
money involved.
Cheers, Alan, Australia
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Patrick Paris
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 6:35 pm Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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On 06 Nov 2008, Wise 1 <W1@delta.com> posted some
news:iqb6h4d5h75ces4v7jev0nhla75pfr5g85@4ax.com:
| Quote: | On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:14:57 +0100, "Jochen Kriegerowski"
joinvalid@smtp.ru> wrote:
"Alan S" <nothere@there.com> schrieb
Of course, skinny people would also be charged extra for the
unused space they are taking, that could be utilised by
others, up by not filling the test seat...
Right. Just like I pay twice for everything else I buy and don't
use. If you buy something, it's compulsory to use it. And you
pay for every minute it is not in use, because others could use
it during this time.
Jochen
The airline should place stalls in the cargo hold for the use of
outsize ceatures and critters.
Wise 1
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Change the door size on the aircraft so elephants cannot board. It will
prevent the obese from entering and offending others. It will also have
the added benefit of slightly increasing the strength of the airframe so
it will be safer. |
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Wise 1
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| Posted: Thu Nov 06, 2008 11:55 pm Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:14:57 +0100, "Jochen Kriegerowski"
<joinvalid@smtp.ru> wrote:
| Quote: | "Alan S" <nothere@there.com> schrieb
Of course, skinny people would also be charged extra for the
unused space they are taking, that could be utilised by
others, up by not filling the test seat...
Right. Just like I pay twice for everything else I buy and don't
use. If you buy something, it's compulsory to use it. And you
pay for every minute it is not in use, because others could use
it during this time.
Jochen
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The airline should place stalls in the cargo hold for the use of
outsize ceatures and critters.
Wise 1
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Brian K
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 3:07 am Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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On 11/6/2008 1:35 PM Patrick Paris did a "happy dance", then made these
writings:
| Quote: | On 06 Nov 2008, Wise 1 <W1@delta.com> posted some
news:iqb6h4d5h75ces4v7jev0nhla75pfr5g85@4ax.com:
On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:14:57 +0100, "Jochen Kriegerowski"
joinvalid@smtp.ru> wrote:
"Alan S" <nothere@there.com> schrieb
Of course, skinny people would also be charged extra for the
unused space they are taking, that could be utilised by
others, up by not filling the test seat...
Right. Just like I pay twice for everything else I buy and don't
use. If you buy something, it's compulsory to use it. And you
pay for every minute it is not in use, because others could use
it during this time.
Jochen
The airline should place stalls in the cargo hold for the use of
outsize ceatures and critters.
Wise 1
Change the door size on the aircraft so elephants cannot board. It will
prevent the obese from entering and offending others. It will also have
the added benefit of slightly increasing the strength of the airframe so
it will be safer.
I thought this thread was funny at first. But, now it has morphed into |
something that's just plain mean. You'd be surprised as to how many
obese people try to lose weight to fit the Hollywood norm of what look a
man or woman should have.
It may be true for some that it's just a habit of overeating without
exercise to burn off the excess weight. Yet some men and women are
genetically set to be heavy. No amount of exercise and diet will keep
the pounds off. Just as some struggle with drugs or alcohol addiction,
there are food addicts. Substance is hard to kick no matter what the
substance might be. It doesn't help either having a familial
predisposition to be an addict for some substance. There are 12-step
recovery programs for overeaters. Just as with drugs and alcohol the
addict has to "hit bottom" and admit to his or herself that they are
powerless over the substance. In addition to what I've mentioned, there
are those with hormonal imbalances.
I am not making excuses for the morbidly obese. I just think that you
have to look at this issue from all angles. The airlines are loosing
money as it is. We really can't hope that seats will be eliminated to
make room for a comfy chair for all sizes of people. It could be
worse. Visiting a mountain retreat in the Peruvian Andes, I once had
the pleasure of riding in the "Chicken Bus". This bus travels down the
mountain navigating hairpin turns with no safety rails. That's not the
bad part. It's the only transport up and down the mountain. It stops
with no rhyme or reason to pick up local women with live chickens they
are bringing to market. Just imagine sitting a bus with no air
conditioning and every seat occupied with one woman traveling with one
or more cackling chicken. When the bus is in motion some women toss
chicken feed in the isle and allow the chickens to forage up and down
the bus' aisle. You really don't know fowl until you've had a ride in
the "Chicken Bus"!
Which would you rather sit next to, Oprah (she's fat again) or a
Peruvian woman with three noisy smelly flea ridden chickens?
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John Doe
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:10 am Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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Brian K wrote:
| Quote: | It may be true for some that it's just a habit of overeating without
exercise to burn off the excess weight. Yet some men and women are
genetically set to be heavy. No amount of exercise and diet will keep
the pounds off.
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That is a big myth. While some may be more predisposed to transform
sugars into fat and send it for storage in skin cells, the fact is that
someone with such a disposition can still check their food intake and
increase their exercise regime and be fit.
So genetics may cause some people to have to be more careful about their
food intake and exercise than others. But it doesn't mean the person
has no choice but to become and stay obese.
Just look at the type of foods advertised on TV which give people
cravings. Except for a few exceptions, it is all food that is high in
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Jim Davis
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:17 am Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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"Brian K" <brian1951BLOG@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | I thought this thread was funny at first. But, now it has morphed into
something that's just plain mean.
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It's a troll thread. The "Obese" thread comes up every few months, and is
heavily crossposted. The idiots that come up with "slob" "pig" etc., are
far from perfect physical specimens themselves.
We just had the farting thread, and the carry-on thread, so those are done
for this month.
Coming Soon;
The "reclining" thread.
The "children" thread. |
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Jim Davis
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 6:39 am Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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"John Doe" <jdoe@doe.org> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Brian K wrote:
It may be true for some that it's just a habit of overeating without
exercise to burn off the excess weight. Yet some men and women are
genetically set to be heavy. No amount of exercise and diet will keep
the pounds off.
That is a big myth. While some may be more predisposed to transform
sugars into fat and send it for storage in skin cells, the fact is that
someone with such a disposition can still check their food intake and
increase their exercise regime and be fit.
So genetics may cause some people to have to be more careful about their
food intake and exercise than others. But it doesn't mean the person
has no choice but to become and stay obese.
Just look at the type of foods advertised on TV which give people
cravings. Except for a few exceptions, it is all food that is high in
sugar and/or fat content.
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You have to look at the mental issues too. Some people just can't handle
it. They try and try, but in the end, they loose control of themselves. On
the other hand, there are many out there who are satisfied with their life
style as is. Whatever the case may be, I ask, just what gives a person the
right to ridicule someone who has a problem. Most of these insulting people
have other issues that they can't overcome. They just don't have the guts
to bring it out in the open. |
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Concerned recycler
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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In article <mYadnQco9OERwY7UnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Brian K <brian1951BLOG@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Which would you rather sit next to, Oprah (she's fat again) or a
Peruvian woman with three noisy smelly flea ridden chickens?
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If they can fit into their seat, without spilling over into mine, I have
no problem with sharing the air with them.
Uf they don't fit one seat, they obviously should pay for two, else the
airline will lose even more money carrying al that weight. |
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Spam away
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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In article <c96dnbboA4TcE47UnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@supernews.com>,
"Jim Davis" <sky.dancer1@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | You have to look at the mental issues too. Some people just can't handle
it. They try and try, but in the end, they loose control of themselves. On
the other hand, there are many out there who are satisfied with their life
style as is. Whatever the case may be, I ask, just what gives a person the
right to ridicule someone who has a problem. Most of these insulting people
have other issues that they can't overcome. They just don't have the guts
to bring it out in the open.
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So you welcome a drugged person in the next seat? |
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Jim Davis
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| Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:46 pm Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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"Spam away" <Trashhere@spam.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In article <c96dnbboA4TcE47UnZ2dnUVZ_hqdnZ2d@supernews.com>,
"Jim Davis" <sky.dancer1@yahoo.com> wrote:
You have to look at the mental issues too. Some people just can't handle
it. They try and try, but in the end, they loose control of themselves.
On
the other hand, there are many out there who are satisfied with their
life
style as is. Whatever the case may be, I ask, just what gives a person
the
right to ridicule someone who has a problem. Most of these insulting
people
have other issues that they can't overcome. They just don't have the
guts
to bring it out in the open.
So you welcome a drugged person in the next seat?
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Is that much different than posting next to spoofers,
Mr. Spam Away / Pirate Chaser / Concerned Recycler? |
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Brian K
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:08 am Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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On 11/6/2008 7:17 PM Jim Davis did a "happy dance", then made these
writings:
| Quote: | "Brian K" <brian1951BLOG@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:mYadnQco9OERwY7UnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@earthlink.com...
I thought this thread was funny at first. But, now it has morphed into
something that's just plain mean.
It's a troll thread. The "Obese" thread comes up every few months, and is
heavily crossposted. The idiots that come up with "slob" "pig" etc., are
far from perfect physical specimens themselves.
We just had the farting thread, and the carry-on thread, so those are done
for this month.
Coming Soon;
The "reclining" thread.
The "children" thread.
Let's not forget the "Thread Thread" where people just post anything |
that spawns more threads.
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Brian K
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| Posted: Sat Nov 08, 2008 5:15 am Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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On 11/7/2008 4:16 AM Concerned recycler did a "happy dance", then made
these writings:
| Quote: | In article <mYadnQco9OERwY7UnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@earthlink.com>,
Brian K <brian1951BLOG@earthlink.net> wrote:
Which would you rather sit next to, Oprah (she's fat again) or a
Peruvian woman with three noisy smelly flea ridden chickens?
If they can fit into their seat, without spilling over into mine, I have
no problem with sharing the air with them.
Uf they don't fit one seat, they obviously should pay for two, else the
airline will lose even more money carrying al that weight.
Ah but there's the rub! While the Peruvian Chicken Women may fit into |
their seats the chicken's are smelly and with no A/C it can get pretty
ripe. Let's not forget that we're not talking docile "Purdue or Tyson"
chickens. These chickens are beyond free range. Some you might even
classify as Demonic Chickens who think nothing of terrorizing tourists.
I was sandwiched between two Chicken Women who had hens with the
temperament of Don Rickles.
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Larrybud
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| Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2008 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: Taking Sides: Should Obese Passengers Pay More? |
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Alan S <nothere@there.com> wrote in
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| Quote: | On Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:12:41 -0800, Joe <> wrote:
Sounds like a good idea to me. When i pay for a seat i'm not
intressted to share 1/3 of it with someone else.
Why not have a "test seat" at the check-in counter if you can'
fit buy a second ticket. Easy!.
Joe
Of course, skinny people would also be charged extra for the
unused space they are taking, that could be utilised by
others, up by not filling the test seat...
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The cost of the ticket covers that extra space for skinny people. |
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