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Mike O'Sullivan
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 Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 12:12 am Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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Keith Anderson wrote:
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The leaves have gone completely from the horse chestnut trees
surrounding the gardens where I live and the Tiergarten is beginning
to look a bit wintry, despite the mild temperatures - thus far, the
warmest November in Berlin since records began.
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Have you not had the blight which our conker tress are suffering from? |
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PatTX
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:39 am Post subject: Re: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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:: ... So, why don't you post something of value for once?
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:: Like what? Chanting the maaaaaaahvel that are the leaves in Merca
:: for 200+ posts - in an ng about Europe, no less? Is it what you call
:: "value"?
You and Martin have your own little sub-group going on. Why don't you just
get a room?
Neither one of you posts anything of usefulness to this board.
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PatTX
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 1:40 am Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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::: The leaves have gone completely from the horse chestnut trees
::: surrounding the gardens where I live and the Tiergarten is beginning
::: to look a bit wintry, despite the mild temperatures - thus far, the
::: warmest November in Berlin since records began.
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:: Have you not had the blight which our conker tress are suffering
:: from?
If you are talking about the chestnut trees and their blight, you should
know that horse chestnut trees are not even in the same genus; therefore,
the blight doesn't affect them.
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Magda
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:47 am Post subject: Re: Re: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 13:39:09 -0600, "PatTX" <sunset@nomaill.com> wrote:
... :: ... So, why don't you post something of value for once?
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... :: Like what? Chanting the maaaaaaahvel that are the leaves in Merca
... :: for 200+ posts - in an ng about Europe, no less? Is it what you call
... :: "value"?
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... You and Martin have your own little sub-group going on. Why don't you just
... get a room?
... Neither one of you posts anything of usefulness to this board.
Back at ya, dahling. Now, what about answering my question?
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Keith Anderson
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| Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 2:48 am Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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On Fri, 14 Nov 2008 18:12:32 +0000, Mike O'Sullivan <mike@nowhere.com>
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| Quote: | Keith Anderson wrote:
The leaves have gone completely from the horse chestnut trees
surrounding the gardens where I live and the Tiergarten is beginning
to look a bit wintry, despite the mild temperatures - thus far, the
warmest November in Berlin since records began.
Have you not had the blight which our conker tress are suffering from?
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Could well be.
Problem here is the Leaf Miner Moth. Doesn't kill the trees, but eats
away at the leaves leaving ugly grey trails and they turn brown
prematurely.
We had a "Community Leaf-Clearing Day" last year - get the leaves to
the roadside, from which point the city cleansing services would take
them away. The moth breeds in the fallen leaves, i.e. get rid of the
old leaves, no more moth.
Didn't work :-(
This year, the Berlin city cleansing department has visited the
gardens several times with street-sweeping machinery and heavy-duty
outdoor vacuum cleaners to see if they can do a better job. We'll see.
Everyone's doing their best.
Website with pictures of last year's Community Leaf-Clearing Day in
the street where Ilive. So now you know - I'm the guy in the blue
anorak posing with the statues.....:-)
http://www.hudik.de/ceciliengaerten/lsa2007/
Keith (formerly of Bristol UK)
now moved to Berlin/nach Berlin umgezogen |
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Mike O'Sullivan
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:03 pm Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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PatTX wrote:
| Quote: | ::: The leaves have gone completely from the horse chestnut trees
::: surrounding the gardens where I live and the Tiergarten is beginning
::: to look a bit wintry, despite the mild temperatures - thus far, the
::: warmest November in Berlin since records began.
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:: Have you not had the blight which our conker tress are suffering
:: from?
If you are talking about the chestnut trees and their blight.
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No I am not! |
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Mike O'Sullivan
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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Keith Anderson wrote:
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Problem here is the Leaf Miner Moth. Doesn't kill the trees, but eats
away at the leaves leaving ugly grey trails and they turn brown
prematurely.
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Yes that's one. Our horse chestnuts are suffering from something else
too, a disease charmingly called Bleeding Canker. Not many conkers this
year, to the distress of the grey squirrel population. |
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Keith Anderson
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| Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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On Sun, 16 Nov 2008 09:09:39 +0000, Mike O'Sullivan <mike@nowhere.com>
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| Quote: | Keith Anderson wrote:
Problem here is the Leaf Miner Moth. Doesn't kill the trees, but eats
away at the leaves leaving ugly grey trails and they turn brown
prematurely.
Yes that's one. Our horse chestnuts are suffering from something else
too, a disease charmingly called Bleeding Canker. Not many conkers this
year, to the distress of the grey squirrel population.
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Not as many conkers here either, compared with last year. There are at
least two red squirrels in the gardens (I know 'cos I've seen them -
maybe there are more) but they're not often to be seen - they're much
shyer than the greys which, of course, we don't have here.
Was in the Lichterfelde suburb of Berlin on Friday - more reds
scampering about in the trees and there are plenty in Volkspark
Friedrichshain.
Good to see wild animals adapting to an urban environment - although I
don't think I'd want to mix it with wild boar. They're on the increase
because of mild winters and have trashed cemeteries, playing-fields
and gardens in the outer suburbs:
http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/Wildschweine-Jagd;art270,2606768
Keith (formerly of Bristol UK)
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PatTX
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 5:17 am Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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:::::: The leaves have gone completely from the horse chestnut trees
:::::: surrounding the gardens where I live and the Tiergarten is
:::::: beginning to look a bit wintry, despite the mild temperatures -
:::::: thus far, the warmest November in Berlin since records began.
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::::: Have you not had the blight which our conker tress are suffering
::::: from?
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::: If you are talking about the chestnut trees and their blight.
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:: No I am not!
What, then, is bothering the horse chestnuts?
Pat in TX |
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Mike O'Sullivan
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| Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 3:43 pm Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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PatTX wrote:
| Quote: | :::::: The leaves have gone completely from the horse chestnut trees
:::::: surrounding the gardens where I live and the Tiergarten is
:::::: beginning to look a bit wintry, despite the mild temperatures -
:::::: thus far, the warmest November in Berlin since records began.
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::::: Have you not had the blight which our conker tress are suffering
::::: from?
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::: If you are talking about the chestnut trees and their blight.
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:: No I am not!
What, then, is bothering the horse chestnuts?
Pat in TX
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M............
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| Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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Following up to Hatunen
| Quote: | Certainly my impression. Maybe it's better to have been there than to
have seen a video?
A video cannot do justice to the colors in, say, Vermont.
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it should be able to give a *very* good impression, the one I looked at
made it look like (old) England in a bad year. Any half decent filmmaker
can make things look better than reality. Ive photographed maples her with
no trouble, use a polariser if you want exagerration.
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Hatunen
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:01 am Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:23:44 +0000, "M............"
<mmmmmmtheobvious@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
| Quote: | Following up to Hatunen
Certainly my impression. Maybe it's better to have been there than to
have seen a video?
A video cannot do justice to the colors in, say, Vermont.
it should be able to give a *very* good impression, the one I looked at
made it look like (old) England in a bad year. Any half decent filmmaker
can make things look better than reality. Ive photographed maples her with
no trouble, use a polariser if you want exagerration.
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The problem is not the color, it's the visual difference between
looking at a photo and looking at the grand panorama of the great
outdoors.
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David Horne, _the_ chance
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> wrote:
| Quote: | On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:23:44 +0000, "M............"
mmmmmmtheobvious@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
Following up to Hatunen
Certainly my impression. Maybe it's better to have been there than to
have seen a video?
A video cannot do justice to the colors in, say, Vermont.
it should be able to give a *very* good impression, the one I looked at
made it look like (old) England in a bad year. Any half decent filmmaker
can make things look better than reality. Ive photographed maples her with
no trouble, use a polariser if you want exagerration.
The problem is not the color,
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The problem is arguing with someone who frankly has never been there.
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Hatunen
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:19:40 +0000, d4g4h4@yahoo.co.uk (David
Horne, _the_ chancellor (*)) wrote:
| Quote: | Hatunen <hatunen@cox.net> wrote:
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 09:23:44 +0000, "M............"
mmmmmmtheobvious@freedomnames.co.uk> wrote:
Following up to Hatunen
Certainly my impression. Maybe it's better to have been there than to
have seen a video?
A video cannot do justice to the colors in, say, Vermont.
it should be able to give a *very* good impression, the one I looked at
made it look like (old) England in a bad year. Any half decent filmmaker
can make things look better than reality. Ive photographed maples her with
no trouble, use a polariser if you want exagerration.
The problem is not the color,
The problem is arguing with someone who frankly has never been there.
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A very good point. It's kind of like being at the Grand Canyon
rather than looking at a photo. In a photo it could be any canyon
(there is a canyon, the Grand Canyon of the Salt River, on US-60
northeast of Phoenix that is quite awesome [1], and an indivdual
photo looks a lot like it could be THE Grand Canyon, but, awesome
as Salt River Canyon is, in person it is a piker compared to the
Grand Canyon)
[1] Highway US-60 actually takes you down to the bottom of the
canyon and crosses a bridge there.
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M............
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| Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Where to go to see the leaves? |
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Following up to Hatunen
| Quote: | it should be able to give a *very* good impression, the one I looked at
made it look like (old) England in a bad year. Any half decent filmmaker
can make things look better than reality. Ive photographed maples her with
no trouble, use a polariser if you want exagerration.
The problem is not the color, it's the visual difference between
looking at a photo and looking at the grand panorama of the great
outdoors.
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if the colour was there (and if the producer used a bit of artifice) we
would get the idea. That video featured walking through old brown leaves, I
dont know what they thought they were doing, theres more maple colour in my
back garden right now!
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